The debate over where "Upstate" begins continues in New York, with Westchester County residents adamant that they are not part of Upstate. Yonkers locals argue that they are not Upstate, with some suggesting Dutchess County as the starting point for Upstate. Despite differing opinions, many agree that areas with lots of trees, mountains, and no cell service qualify as Upstate, with Lake George being a definite example. The debate highlights the diverse perspectives on what constitutes Upstate New York.